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robax
Posts:6

06/17/2008 9:14 AM  

Hi there,

Looks like I've now purchased all of your modules and so I'm sure I'll be in here with a few suggestions in the next days or weeks.  

I pruchased the rotator because I was having trouble displaying zldnn's google map module inside mandeep's css tabs module. The map would break up somehow.

It works fine in digRotate however so that 's a great start!

Two things became immediately apparent.. so here they are for consideratin in a future update:

Can you provide the action menu module edit items as action buttons/links. This goes for all modules, not just this one. It is far easier for someone with module edit rights to see the text links than it is to find the solpart actions. In this module that would mean the "admin" menu item. The "Clear Rotate Cache" item is probably not as important.

And the other thing I've noted is that when I create a tab in the rotator and put a module inside it, the container (title, visiblity icon etc) for that module remains visible on the page outside of the tab.

In mandeep's version, the container moves into the tabs module along with the module it belongs to. The tabs module then has an option for hiding the container.

Obviously I can go and hide the container for the module, but that requires page dit permissions, which are a higher level of access than is required for managing content. Hising the container also means that any action buttons or menus it had would vanish for the person with module edit rights, thus placing the module content out of action.

hmm. I've also just now discovered a much more serious issue than anything above.

When I'm signed in as a content manager with only module edit rights, the module allows me to grab any module from any page on the portal, including from pages I do not have edit rights for. In the system here that means that a content manager can gain access to the accounts management module and elevate their own security status.

Is there anything you can do to inhibit this behaviour? Are you able to make it disallow exctraction of modules from pages where the user does not have page edit rights? Or if that isnt' possible, perhaps a host setting to only allow modules to be insterted from the same page the module is on... that would at least remove the issue and still let the module be used.

In fact, if the module-insertion settings defaulted to the current page, which it currently does not, then it would be easy enough to hide the page selection dropdown from non-admin roles. That would be a workable option if none of the above was possible.

Sorry for the rather long post... I tend to get into a lot of detail.. and there will no doubt be more to come :)

Regards,
Rob

digmike
Posts:275

06/17/2008 9:17 PM  
Hi Rob,
No problem for the long post, I'm used to reading your posts on the DNN forums. :) And thanks for your purchases, we would love any and all feedback to help improve our products. The only request that I have is that you add any suggestions to the Feature Requests section. That is the first place I go when making a list of enhancments for new releases.
1) The action menu / links is a good idea for a future release. We also want to make it quicker to edit the content so you don't have to scroll through all the options to get to all the content.

2) I have never used mandeeps control, but it sound like it works a bit differently than digRotate. Most users I talk to either have the module hidden, or have it on a separate page. We don't copy the container becuase our thought is you would rather use a container around the digRotate module instead of the module you are trying to rotate.

3) To be honest when digRotate was started, it was primarily a tool for admins. Since we added tabs in 3.0, it is being used more and more as a content management tool instead of a quick flashy billboard type tool. So the next release will definitely keep that in mind. In the meantime, I don't think it would be a big deal to enforce security on the tab pages drop down. I'll whip something up this week.

Thanks,
Mike

robax
Posts:6

06/18/2008 7:48 AM  
Hi Mike, yep will do on the feature requests page... and thanks for the prompt replies.

I've had another long look at how the module works and I can see now that there's no single change or fix that would make it fully content-manageable by module editors. Mandeep's module can do it, but only as a result of 3 or 4 distinct features that are not present here, and are probably not easy to implement.

So what I'm getting at is... don't worry about doing anything for me. I'll use the module as admin-only. I can still use Mandeep's for some things as well. And if digRotate eventually comes up for any major redevelopment work, then please let me know ahead of time and I'll provide much more extensive feedback.

For now I can see that I can create a hidden page for content editors where they can edit the contents of the injected modules without having edit rights on the rotator itself. And for text content I can just inject Text/HTML modules rather than use the text editor in the module.

Ultimately, he best bits of the module are in the visitor experience and that is not affected by any of the issues... it looks good and has lots of nice transitions etc.

Kind regards,
Rob
digmike
Posts:275

06/18/2008 1:21 PM  

Hi Rob,

Sound good, I will definatly get more feedback from you when the next major update comes around.  Another option would be to allow your editers to use digMeta and Windows Live Writer to edit the content.

Thanks,

Mike


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